![]() "I knew that it would be unmanageable and unruly and not in any way controlled or pretty." The sort of things that are afforded people in grief, even just sitting with other people or spending time with family or even a f**king funeral were not there. In terms of isolation being how most people handle grief because of shame or that people don't know what to do with it, I was actually isolated because it was COVID. Outside of magazines and trades and the show business community picking it up, I didn't need to make it as public as I did, but I did, because I'm a guy that shares his life. I certainly chose to make it more open than it was necessary. Is there anything good about having loss in such an open way? You went through grief in a really public way. We all go through it, but we often go through it privately. ![]() This grief that is the central part of this show is such a universal experience. "From Dark to Joy" would be good, but that seems like a big jump. I would think "From Dark to OK." I'm really OK, which is implicit in the presentation because I'm a comedian and I obviously have a handle on this stuff. What is the next gradient shade on that spectrum? Have no specific notes, but is there any way we can get it from bleak to dark?" And I thought, "Yeah, that's what I do." That's my whole life. says, "Look guys, it's great, great story, loved it, really great writing. Nick Grad, the head of FX, is at the top of this Zoom pyramid, and there's FX people and my people and me and Sam. So we outlined a story through the second script and we turned it in to FX and we had a notes call. We sold this show and we'd written one script for them, and they wanted another script. I was developing a show for FX with Sam Lipsyte, the novelist, and my good friend. I'll tell you because it's a funny story. I can't think of a special recently that has truly lived up to its name the way "From Bleak to Dark" does. ![]() This conversation has been lightly edited for clarity. Now, in a candid conversation for "Salon Talks," Maron discusses the "institutional insecurity" that has clouded this year's Oscars, as well as what he's learned from bombing on stage, and why the things he says in his new special "could be dangerous to my life." In the past few weeks, Maron has also been vocal about the controversy surrounding his "To Leslie" costar Andrea Riseborough's Oscar nomination - and the Academy's subsequent "review" of the grassroots campaign for that nod. It's the most exhilarating exploration of grief you'll likely see this year. But it's his blunt retelling of the aftermath of the sudden 2020 death of his partner, filmmaker Lynn Shelton, that forms the hilarious, cathartic heart of the performance. In the aptly named "From Bleak to Dark," the comedian and former "GLOW" actor takes on despair, dementia and depression with the trademark wry weariness familiar to fans of his long-running "WTF" podcast. "I don't want to be negative," says Marc Maron in his first-ever HBO special, "but I don't think anything's ever going to get better ever again."
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